once I was told that if I didn't stop sweating cause I was winning duels against someone they were gonna find my house, rape my sister, and kill me in my sleep.
well butterfly clicking, w tapping, hit selecting etc... it's not unfair advantages or cheats it takes a lot of practice to master and it's very hard to do (and yes not every mouse can double click but even if u have a mouse that can double click it's hard to master butterfly clicking so u can do 20+cps) so just because some people spends hundreds of hours to master these skills that doesn't mean they are toxic or that they have an unfair advantage
u can use low cps as an arguably bigger advantage than high cps if yk how, hit selecting is easy asf to counter since 99.9% of people dont even know why it works or how to trade properly, and jump resetting is just a straight disadvantage if ur fighting anybody who knows shit abt what they doing u dont need to play 1000 hours to get good at mc, most of the actual good players in the game (dante, bacho, vyko, luzis etc) play like once every 2 months
@@realgog high cps results in a movement slowdown but less knocback being taken, however if you manipulate your movement and the hitsequence correctly in a trade then it will directly result in you taking less knockback and dealing more due to the increased momentum
ur complaining about basic pvp techniques that are either just straight disadvantages vs any good player or just easy asf to counter lol sprint resetting is just dealing more kb and manipulating movement, idk anybody who didnt know abt that shit in 2017 jump resetting is literally a disadvantage vs any good player who knows how to counter it and does not reduce kb in the way minemanner claims it does, it is simply a way of manipulating trading hitsequence, but there are better and less riskier ways of doing it its arguably easier to play with low cps than high cps if you have any idea on how to manipulate knockback in trades hit selecting is just a trading technique that ptb dante invented in 2016 that can be countered like 10 different ways, most ppl dont know why hitselecting works or how to counter since it was popularized in the general pvp comm by hypixel players and shit
copy pasted luzis ping explanation as well: ping affects both parties the way. your ms/ the opponents ms alone does not decide the visual delay (time between you performing an action like hitting someone and you getting the visual feedback that the hit was registered). you have to combine both ms to get the cummulative ms (for example 80ms vs 20ms = 100 ms/ 5 ticks -> visual delay is 100 ms). In this scenario (80 ms vs 20 ms) the person with 80 ms does not get his hits registered later than the 20 ms person because it takes the same time for both parties (100 ms). high visual delay does change the game fundamentally in terms of how trades will be played out because it does the determine when the first hit in the trade is registered (example: player 1 hits when hes 3 blocks away to player 2 with both running straight into each other (around 8 blocks/second *2 (both of them running into each other) -> 16 blocks/ second =0,8 blocks/tick (they run into each other at that speed) and with a visual delay of 5 ticks/100 ms the players will have already moved 4 blocks into each other completely changing the hitsequence (when hits are placed during a trade). This is also why it looks like you are very close to the opponent on your screen when combing someone if the cummulative ms is high. So it does fundamentally change the game but gives neither a direct advantage or disadvantage because it affects both parties the same. you can feel a subjective bias to playing very low ms for an example tho because if you have low ms the cummulative ms will always be relatively low (depending on who you are fighting) so you might be used to low visual delay whilst the other player is not giving you an advantage in that regard (as i said it changes how the game works/how you have to play it to win so if you are not used to low cummulative ms your timing will be off)
in addition most actually good players who understand the game only play like once every 2 months cause you dont need to play 1000 hours to understand and apply mc mechanics
Only 730 subscribers?? wtf haha this vid is quality... love the authenticity, not many people stay true to themselves but in the long run it'll catch up to you bro. that 100k sub count is just around the corner.
@@SkyblockhubQOL I can argue with that as about 80% of cheaters I met were actually pretty toxic and selfish. Maybe it's because we're talking about different communities as I'm speaking not just about Minecraft cheaters but cheaters in general
@@SSSHalt I’m talking mainly about Minecraft cheaters. They are usually pretty chill, speaking from experience we don’t want to (or at least I) don’t want to be toxic after cheating on someone. It’s like adding insult to injury.
@danwy hcf comm was the wildest most toxic place in the game LMAO. its like u killed a kid and got him deathbanned for 16hrs and cus of that got doxxed, swatted and had your friends and family harassed for the next 6 months. it was on a diff level
9:10 'give players a challenge', played minecraft competitively and "it got boring" AKA he couldn't get to the point he wanted to lmao, the cope is off the charts 😭😭
as the person that was interviewed. i played for years and got way past the point i aimed for. I still do play legit more often than i do cheat and still perform well, but instead of spending all the time grinding stats which did get boring as the game was repetitive i moved to cheating for FKDR grinding or just mind numbing blatant'ing while in vc's I can admit people are better than me but there isnt cope. minecraft gets boring and thats why I dont main it anymore.
@@WompClient in my opinion, if you think the game is so boring you have to ruin the experience for players, just don't play at all. move to a different aspect of the game, it doesn't matter, but even if you don't really want to, and it's not your motives, you still are ruining newer players' experiences. you might even be the cause of more experienced players to quit the game
@@realgog I did move to other aspects for a while and still got bored over time And I’m not gonna lie hypixel is so full with cheaters no matter what I did someone was gonna be hopped on I didn’t really change anything in that area Eventually it’ll be the same I’ll cheat get bored and quit
Its unbelievable how true this is. When I was 8-10 years old, I played a lot of video games. Eventually, I chose Minecraft as my main game. From hypixel, CPvP (tierlist in general ig), to smps, to 2b2t. It's just crazy. Saying things (eg. racism, and other horrible shit) for shock value just doesn't even work on most Minecraft communities. It's just normal at this point
You said everything I wanted to say to the general public inside me, literally the most toxic community I've been through since I started playing the game from 2014 until now, I've been through all kinds of problems as it's now evolving into the bedrock community.
Got some criticism about the last part: Butterfly clicking is not controversial. It is a pretty balanced mechanic that you can do with about any mouse. Some give more and some give less cps, but you can compare that to having a good pc or having a bad pc. If you’re able to afford a laptop that runs Minecraft and the game itself, and you are really competitive about it, you’ll be able to afford a mouse that supports butterfly. Same for drag clicking, where the mice themselves are mostly even cheaper. Those „cringe mechanics“ you mentioned exist everywhere in the gaming community and not just minecraft, the difference is that the mechanics themselves are different. This is not different to counter strafing in cs which you mentioned, or bhop (referring to the mechanic in cs here). There’s also a lot more stuff in Valorant to nerd out about when new agents come out. Especially in minecraft, there have been far more competitive times than now. If you compare old hg/uhc/rushBW/cwbw to the competitive scene now, you realize that it used to be far more sweaty back then. Of course, the skill of the best players has always risen and there are more and more mechanics, but I realize a lot of players who used to be competitive a lot in those times, can catch up very quickly to new mechanics.
Back in the kohi and HCTeams days (OGs will know) doxing and DDOS was incredibly common and normalized. The farthest I've seen the toxicity go is toxic faction leaders (sometimes young adults) doing cruel hazing ritual to literal children by encouraging them to expose themselves or self humiliation to be granted a spot in a faction. (They usually got kicked and killed)
Finally someone made a video about the minecraft community. A lot of videos about the com are from a outsider's perspective and they really don't know what actually happens im really happy that someone finally made a video about this com
@@disselpower7136 Yea i commented it half way trough the video he could say more abt the "High skill community" if he interviewed more like high skill players then it would be a perfect video
good video but theres a couple corrections i want to make -on paper winstreaking in gamemodes like duels/bedwars seem impossible, but with stat mods and dodging avoiding snipers has become easier than ever. ive gotten 3 legitimate 2000 duels winstreaks and a 670 bedwars winstreak because detecting snipers is easier than ever before -at the end you mentioned a lot of methods that are "cringe" that people use to gain an advantage, but minecraft is the biggest game ever made. theres inevitably going to be a community where people try to become better than everyone else which is why people have drastically improved over the past years. its inevitable in any major game. its to the same effect of calling esports players cringe for using different movement strategies in CS
i dont think people realize that the twitter "hacker" literally was just the typical hcf player LMAOO dossing doxxing scamming and cybercrime is literally just a daily occurence like
Hey man, great video, I agree with everything up until the double click with Razer's keyboard comparison with cs. I've been in the CS movement community for years. You don't need a razer keyboard to do that. You can just set up null binds. Why does no one do this beside people doing kz or long jumps? Because it's notoriously bad in competition. Null binds can cause bad counter strafes, and most of the time you end up moving while shooting which is not ideal. In long jumping however, it can drastically increase performance. You get zero over lap and better sync. That's why there are different leader boards for nulls. I however think in comp or faceit it's far from cheating, you actually end up limiting yourself. -a guy who uses nulls
I agree with a lot of the stuff you said here, but hit-selecting is not really a bad tactic imo. It happens a LOT, it has just become a normal strategy in 1.7/1.8
This is a really important reminder to keep your privacy and watch what you say online. Unrelated but god damn there are some beautiful texture packs in this video.
Very good video, I’m glad more people are talking about this. I have seen so many toxic things, some really fucked up stuff that permanently impacted people’s lives. It’s just sad what happened to a game that’s supposed to be fun. The only part I disagree with is adding hit selecting and jump resetting to the annoying part, since using both of these actually imo make it easier to fight high cps. Every game requires a high skill level to be on the leaderboards, and not having just to think about aiming and clicking makes sense. The problem is how many cheaters there are in ranked and some playstyles like running ect.
"minemen, which has one of the best anticheats in the entire minecraft" my man didn't play enough minemen and watched the ranked situation there for that statement... but yeah, the minecraft pvp situation has been one of the worst i've ever seen, and i'm genuinely, GENUINELY glad that somebody finally adressed it because it's such an obvious problem that everyone faces, yet nobody talks about...
Minecraft has one of the most toxic communities I’ve actually ever seen. Its crazy a lot of people don’t know or didn’t know what has gone on, especially during the OLD HCF days. People were getting swatted and shit. That was BADDD!
2b2t not being brought up is wild, I still remember that I was in vc when 5nt swatted Sjnez (with both of them in the vc btw) over a fucking PvP beef. 5nt then was arrested like a week later and given 500 hrs of com service. Not mentioning 2b here is just a crime lol
I am so glad I left the pvp community. One thing was that I got bored of it and moved on and also the fact that you have to break your hand to win a single game. It's funny to see kids mald in chat over a boxing match loss
outdated aaaah content , i feel like im listening to the old tenebrous who had almost no idea what he was talking abt, the last part where u complain abt butterfly clicling, hitselect etc also sounds like a massive skill issue ngl
Not to mention the extreme level of toxicity in modern Minecraft PVP not 1.8 for the extreme level of toxicity at the top level and the level of abuse that some players are willing to subject. Other to is crazy.
i play fireball fight alot and I'm not toxic, but it's just sad to see that some people have super big egos. One time I beat this known player then he proceeded to be toxic in my dms for minutes straight, and they were also on 60 winstreak. I have lost winstreaks in the past due to something stupid, but at least I don't complain
Stuff like butterfly clicking just goes to prove my point that, while not perfect, 1.9 was 100% needed. Post combat update combat is just so much more fun and interesting
Honestly this sounds like someone unwilling to come to terms with the fact that there are skilled players that are just that, skilled. "cringe" ways to play don't exist. You just can't play at their skill level, which is fine, but calling it toxicity is coping.
Minecraft is like that bc it does not have even a little bit of client side anticheat, every bit of every packet needs to be analised by the server to decide if the player is cheating.
The online world has become a nightmare everywhere Edit: I have always been scared of hackers. Now yes My name online is Glitch Master but I am only Called Glitch Master because I did Glitches in Jak and Daxter games back in the PS2 eras. But this hacking and doing stuff is at the next level. I'm not alarmed because the world is shifting but, holy shit this is scary as hell.
7:36 "if you play with slight reach, hitboxes and cps mod (autoclicker?) you can potentially play infinitely." Reach and hitboxes are blatant cheats, playing with autoclicker, esp, blockhit with the right settings never gets you banned
Calling Minecraft’s very essence (“the true minecraft”) that of toxicity is simply misguided. The community leaks their venom and toxicity into this simple block game.
I: Ok I understand that you get extremely salty when someone uses a mechanic that you don't know how to use but other than CPS Minecraft 1.8/Minecraft Bedrock PvP mechanics are actually very cool. Minecraft has a very cohesive set of mechanics than can be used in conjunction with eachother. Basically when you play a pvp game there are ways to counter everything the other player does, whether it be jump reseting, hitsequencing (hitselecting), or for absolute chads; 45ing (Moving you camera 45 degrees and strafing gives more momentum as you know, this can be used to get closer to your oponent in a trade with preferrable kb, in conjunction with jump reseting works very well). I could make the entire PvP bible if I wanted to but the point is that Minecraft 1.8/Minecraft Bedrock PvP mechanics work pretty well. II: Excluding cheating, the fact that Minecraft has more of the most toxic people is in hindsight not very surprising. If you include Chinese players and pirated players then there are about 200 million players who have touched the game enough to understand it. When you have such a massive player pool it statistically makes sense that more of the most decrepit people may end up in some community and cause a lot of upset. III: Although I had some criticism for you claims about the PvP mechanics, I will say that you covered the topic of cheating very well, cheating in Minecraft is very easy due to the lack of ways to check for cheats through the server side and the modding capability of the game. Overall I enjoyed your coverage of those topics with the perspectives of the cheat devs and cheaters included.
Minemen's agc used to be a great anti-cheat, but now it's terrible. I'd say even worse than Hypixel's watchdog at times. Nowadays it's trivially easy to bypass killaura, scaffold, etc. and movement bypasses aren't that hard to find either. Hypixel does actually keep getting better, though very slowly. For example, reach is patched, and people are forced to use more modern cheats such as Backtrack, which effectively replace reach, but are less OP.
This video feels like a Minecraft hate! Tbh I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hacker on Hypixel (or at least don’t remember) but even if most people do encounter hackers a lot it’s all about the server, not the game! You can still play normal Minecraft and don’t worry about any of these stuff or just go to a less popular Server!
I don't agree with some of the gameplay part. Just like a lot of games, if you intend to play PVP in Minecraft, you have to know how to play first. A lot of mechanics are annoying and toxic to an extent, but they're just ways to play the game to maybe have an advantage if you learn. It's like playing Fortnite and not knowing how to build and saying it's "toxic" and "cringe". Although that's a valid thing to sa-
When I was playing Minecraft, a player said to "end my irl hardcore world"
I'm putting that in on my list thank you very much.
Im only starting to notice how bad the stuff some people have said to me through this game really is..
once I was told that if I didn't stop sweating cause I was winning duels against someone they were gonna find my house, rape my sister, and kill me in my sleep.
Not that bad
bro I clicked this video thinking you had like 120k subs and I see you with 1k come on people support this underrated guy PLEASE
bro has not seen the HCF minecraft community
apple i ran u in minejunkie
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Or the crystal comm...
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@@asda123_3 why are you getting pressed like ur legit getting proud over the state of toxicity ur com is in...
He was valid until he started complaining about butterfly clicking and jump resetting 💀💀
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fr though
he just went off on a random tangent
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Complaining about butterfly clicking? Oh nah he's never heard of keyboard place lol
bro has not seen prime kohi
Good shit
well butterfly clicking, w tapping, hit selecting etc... it's not unfair advantages or cheats it takes a lot of practice to master and it's very hard to do (and yes not every mouse can double click but even if u have a mouse that can double click it's hard to master butterfly clicking so u can do 20+cps) so just because some people spends hundreds of hours to master these skills that doesn't mean they are toxic or that they have an unfair advantage
u can use low cps as an arguably bigger advantage than high cps if yk how, hit selecting is easy asf to counter since 99.9% of people dont even know why it works or how to trade properly, and jump resetting is just a straight disadvantage if ur fighting anybody who knows shit abt what they doing
u dont need to play 1000 hours to get good at mc, most of the actual good players in the game (dante, bacho, vyko, luzis etc) play like once every 2 months
@@sceyna theres no advantages to low cps that i know of. high cps gives smaller but a lot of advantages
@@realgog high cps results in a movement slowdown but less knocback being taken, however if you manipulate your movement and the hitsequence correctly in a trade then it will directly result in you taking less knockback and dealing more due to the increased momentum
Post 1.9 pvp is better
@@nightowlorder2750 shut up holy, we are not talking about the disaster that 1.9+ pvp is, it has more flaws than actual mechanics ffs.
ur complaining about basic pvp techniques that are either just straight disadvantages vs any good player or just easy asf to counter lol
sprint resetting is just dealing more kb and manipulating movement, idk anybody who didnt know abt that shit in 2017
jump resetting is literally a disadvantage vs any good player who knows how to counter it and does not reduce kb in the way minemanner claims it does, it is simply a way of manipulating trading hitsequence, but there are better and less riskier ways of doing it
its arguably easier to play with low cps than high cps if you have any idea on how to manipulate knockback in trades
hit selecting is just a trading technique that ptb dante invented in 2016 that can be countered like 10 different ways, most ppl dont know why hitselecting works or how to counter since it was popularized in the general pvp comm by hypixel players and shit
copy pasted luzis ping explanation as well:
ping affects both parties the way. your ms/ the opponents ms alone does not decide the visual delay (time between you performing an action like hitting someone and you getting the visual feedback that the hit was registered). you have to combine both ms to get the cummulative ms (for example 80ms vs 20ms = 100 ms/ 5 ticks -> visual delay is 100 ms). In this scenario (80 ms vs 20 ms) the person with 80 ms does not get his hits registered later than the 20 ms person because it takes the same time for both parties (100 ms). high visual delay does change the game fundamentally in terms of how trades will be played out because it does the determine when the first hit in the trade is registered (example: player 1 hits when hes 3 blocks away to player 2 with both running straight into each other (around 8 blocks/second *2 (both of them running into each other) -> 16 blocks/ second =0,8 blocks/tick (they run into each other at that speed) and with a visual delay of 5 ticks/100 ms the players will have already moved 4 blocks into each other completely changing the hitsequence (when hits are placed during a trade). This is also why it looks like you are very close to the opponent on your screen when combing someone if the cummulative ms is high. So it does fundamentally change the game but gives neither a direct advantage or disadvantage because it affects both parties the same. you can feel a subjective bias to playing very low ms for an example tho because if you have low ms the cummulative ms will always be relatively low (depending on who you are fighting) so you might be used to low visual delay whilst the other player is not giving you an advantage in that regard (as i said it changes how the game works/how you have to play it to win so if you are not used to low cummulative ms your timing will be off)
in addition most actually good players who understand the game only play like once every 2 months cause you dont need to play 1000 hours to understand and apply mc mechanics
Its me goku
@@Blendingmachine1712 goat
Someone smart in this comment section 🔥
Only 730 subscribers?? wtf haha this vid is quality... love the authenticity, not many people stay true to themselves but in the long run it'll catch up to you bro. that 100k sub count is just around the corner.
99% of cheaters arent toxic. its the legit player base that is toxic.
Just to be sure - 99 is a hyperbolization, right?
@@SSSHalt very slight exaggeration but I’d say at least 80% of the cheaters I’ve met have been chill. They aren’t toxic unless you’re toxic to them.
@@SkyblockhubQOL I can argue with that as about 80% of cheaters I met were actually pretty toxic and selfish. Maybe it's because we're talking about different communities as I'm speaking not just about Minecraft cheaters but cheaters in general
@@SSSHalt I’m talking mainly about Minecraft cheaters. They are usually pretty chill, speaking from experience we don’t want to (or at least I) don’t want to be toxic after cheating on someone. It’s like adding insult to injury.
Keep in mind I also never cheated in competitive situations, it was only in chill games and low level lobbies.
Out of all of this im honestly shocked that factions wasnt mentioned at all lol, was one of the most abhorrent communities there was
I've never been in the faction community or heard of any diabolical stuff going on in there. I'll take a look into it though, thanks.
@@danwy he's prolly talking about HardCore Faction
@@danwy i could give some of the worst things that happen in hcf (hardcore factions) it would make a great video
factions is hell on earth bro
@danwy hcf comm was the wildest most toxic place in the game LMAO. its like u killed a kid and got him deathbanned for 16hrs and cus of that got doxxed, swatted and had your friends and family harassed for the next 6 months. it was on a diff level
hit selecting and w tapping and butterfly clicking is not toxic LMAO. they are literal pvp strategies. it was a good video until that.
Bro hasnt seen 1.20 tierlist community
that shit aint nearly as toxic as hcf
nevermind but theres a lot of horrible people in both coms
@@frunote yes its more toxic than hcf
@@frunote aximity alone just ruins half of the tierlists' reputation ;-;
There was a known doxer in the cpvp tier list community who decided to send a shooting threat to a school and get himself arrested
has bro stepped foot in the pot comm?
I don’t think so LOL not badlion either
cpvp comm goes WLD
9:10 'give players a challenge', played minecraft competitively and "it got boring" AKA he couldn't get to the point he wanted to lmao, the cope is off the charts 😭😭
as the person that was interviewed.
i played for years and got way past the point i aimed for.
I still do play legit more often than i do cheat and still perform well, but instead of spending all the time grinding stats which did get boring as the game was repetitive i moved to cheating for FKDR grinding or just mind numbing blatant'ing while in vc's
I can admit people are better than me but there isnt cope. minecraft gets boring and thats why I dont main it anymore.
@@WompClient in my opinion, if you think the game is so boring you have to ruin the experience for players, just don't play at all. move to a different aspect of the game, it doesn't matter, but even if you don't really want to, and it's not your motives, you still are ruining newer players' experiences. you might even be the cause of more experienced players to quit the game
@@realgog I did move to other aspects for a while and still got bored over time
And I’m not gonna lie hypixel is so full with cheaters no matter what I did someone was gonna be hopped on I didn’t really change anything in that area
Eventually it’ll be the same
I’ll cheat get bored and quit
simple bro cheating is fun
@@WompClientMinecraft isn't boring, it's just that you forgot that there's things to do other than pvp
Its unbelievable how true this is. When I was 8-10 years old, I played a lot of video games. Eventually, I chose Minecraft as my main game. From hypixel, CPvP (tierlist in general ig), to smps, to 2b2t. It's just crazy. Saying things (eg. racism, and other horrible shit) for shock value just doesn't even work on most Minecraft communities. It's just normal at this point
thats just how 2b2t is bro, anything goes
@@PugTheIrishLug ngl anarchy isnt nearly as toxic as bedwars or CPvP because people dont get as mad when they die.
@@FvQc-fe7mg fr
@@FvQc-fe7mg people on 2b2t be givin life advice to new players 💀 while I’m getting called slurs in a bedwars game
@@PugTheIrishLugwhat i’m saying😭🙏 i kill a lt2 nethpot and i get called a f@g and a basketball person just cuz they dropped😂
And this didn’t even touch the 1.9 community yet , dont let me get started on them 😭😭
You said everything I wanted to say to the general public inside me, literally the most toxic community I've been through since I started playing the game from 2014 until now, I've been through all kinds of problems as it's now evolving into the bedrock community.
i love your honesty it really makes me happy the outro was amazing
Got some criticism about the last part:
Butterfly clicking is not controversial. It is a pretty balanced mechanic that you can do with about any mouse. Some give more and some give less cps, but you can compare that to having a good pc or having a bad pc. If you’re able to afford a laptop that runs Minecraft and the game itself, and you are really competitive about it, you’ll be able to afford a mouse that supports butterfly. Same for drag clicking, where the mice themselves are mostly even cheaper.
Those „cringe mechanics“ you mentioned exist everywhere in the gaming community and not just minecraft, the difference is that the mechanics themselves are different. This is not different to counter strafing in cs which you mentioned, or bhop (referring to the mechanic in cs here). There’s also a lot more stuff in Valorant to nerd out about when new agents come out.
Especially in minecraft, there have been far more competitive times than now. If you compare old hg/uhc/rushBW/cwbw to the competitive scene now, you realize that it used to be far more sweaty back then. Of course, the skill of the best players has always risen and there are more and more mechanics, but I realize a lot of players who used to be competitive a lot in those times, can catch up very quickly to new mechanics.
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Butterfly clicking was controversial years ago lmao
@@emilydavidson8844 not in Germany, it was just a new skill
@@Filipse99 yea not in Germany, in USA
butterfly clicking is possible on about any mice but double clicking butterfly not and that´s the problem but i agree with the other points
Back in the kohi and HCTeams days (OGs will know) doxing and DDOS was incredibly common and normalized. The farthest I've seen the toxicity go is toxic faction leaders (sometimes young adults) doing cruel hazing ritual to literal children by encouraging them to expose themselves or self humiliation to be granted a spot in a faction. (They usually got kicked and killed)
Yeah honestly I regret being a part of the minecraft community throughout 2019-2022
nothing will be more toxic than hcf, especially the kid who stole like a couple million worth of crypto
aka Open
Agreed
@@akaWilln54 open was media on one of my hcf servers back in the day :rofl:
happy birthday to your mum bro this video is awesome
Funny thing is, thats only the Java com not the bedrock com
Finally someone made a video about the minecraft community. A lot of videos about the com are from a outsider's perspective and they really don't know what actually happens im really happy that someone finally made a video about this com
I mean although he mentioned some stuff there is much more and I dont think he mentioned even half of it
@@disselpower7136 Yea i commented it half way trough the video he could say more abt the "High skill community" if he interviewed more like high skill players then it would be a perfect video
good video but theres a couple corrections i want to make
-on paper winstreaking in gamemodes like duels/bedwars seem impossible, but with stat mods and dodging avoiding snipers has become easier than ever. ive gotten 3 legitimate 2000 duels winstreaks and a 670 bedwars winstreak because detecting snipers is easier than ever before
-at the end you mentioned a lot of methods that are "cringe" that people use to gain an advantage, but minecraft is the biggest game ever made. theres inevitably going to be a community where people try to become better than everyone else which is why people have drastically improved over the past years. its inevitable in any major game. its to the same effect of calling esports players cringe for using different movement strategies in CS
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He'll know cringe when he plays blitz and eu servers
@@StrafeTheus what lol
second point was exactly i was thinking lol
i dont think people realize that the twitter "hacker" literally was just the typical hcf player LMAOO dossing doxxing scamming and cybercrime is literally just a daily occurence like
Hey man, great video, I agree with everything up until the double click with Razer's keyboard comparison with cs. I've been in the CS movement community for years. You don't need a razer keyboard to do that. You can just set up null binds. Why does no one do this beside people doing kz or long jumps? Because it's notoriously bad in competition. Null binds can cause bad counter strafes, and most of the time you end up moving while shooting which is not ideal. In long jumping however, it can drastically increase performance. You get zero over lap and better sync. That's why there are different leader boards for nulls. I however think in comp or faceit it's far from cheating, you actually end up limiting yourself. -a guy who uses nulls
"Minecraft isn't fun anymore." This doesn't ALSO apply to PvP. This EXCLUSIVELY applies to PvP lmao.
shut up
good vid bro i usually never watch until the end
The sniping comm is a bunch of freaks lmfao, actual comedy
the fact that a cheat for "guess the build" even exists really caught me off guard
16:37 That is one sus Google tab you got open there
Great documentary man this is only the surface of it though coming from someone who used to be in xylans be safe out there
I agree with a lot of the stuff you said here, but hit-selecting is not really a bad tactic imo. It happens a LOT, it has just become a normal strategy in 1.7/1.8
this is the realest video ive seen in years. literally the reason im playing valorant now, and its beginning to have its issues too
dude this is such a good and high quality video! why does this creator not have more recognition?
This is a really important reminder to keep your privacy and watch what you say online.
Unrelated but god damn there are some beautiful texture packs in this video.
Biggest paid game = more players= more chance for toxic
Great vid cant belive you only 760 subs 🤯 keep posting at this standard and your gonna go crazy
Minecraft is at the same time the most toxic community, and (one of the) least toxic communities
This is about to blow up I guarantee it it’s a great quality video and I hope you make a lot more like it
People I sometimes don't think believe me when I say I'm in the most toxic community online or atleast in the top ten.
What a banger Vid fr, all the long time players apprecheate u
Very good video, I’m glad more people are talking about this. I have seen so many toxic things, some really fucked up stuff that permanently impacted people’s lives. It’s just sad what happened to a game that’s supposed to be fun.
The only part I disagree with is adding hit selecting and jump resetting to the annoying part, since using both of these actually imo make it easier to fight high cps. Every game requires a high skill level to be on the leaderboards, and not having just to think about aiming and clicking makes sense. The problem is how many cheaters there are in ranked and some playstyles like running ect.
"minemen, which has one of the best anticheats in the entire minecraft" my man didn't play enough minemen and watched the ranked situation there for that statement...
but yeah, the minecraft pvp situation has been one of the worst i've ever seen, and i'm genuinely, GENUINELY glad that somebody finally adressed it because it's such an obvious problem that everyone faces, yet nobody talks about...
Minecraft has one of the most toxic communities I’ve actually ever seen. Its crazy a lot of people don’t know or didn’t know what has gone on, especially during the OLD HCF days. People were getting swatted and shit. That was BADDD!
some people from the 1.7 pvp comm literally went to prison for swatting each other lol
As a regular 2b2t player, the things people say there in chat is borderline insane It sometimes makes you wonder how did we get here
If you make a part two, you should talk about the 1.9+ PvP community, it's incredibly toxic and I'll be happy to assist you
A really good video! Good job
dude you're GORGEOUS
This kind of stuff is why I don't ever go to large servers such as Hypixel ever since 2021-ish
POV : you think being skilled is toxic 24:10
2b2t not being brought up is wild, I still remember that I was in vc when 5nt swatted Sjnez (with both of them in the vc btw) over a fucking PvP beef. 5nt then was arrested like a week later and given 500 hrs of com service. Not mentioning 2b here is just a crime lol
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bro has just scratched the surface
hope you blow up bro good video
zillans 🔥had me cracking up every time u said it like that bro
I am so glad I left the pvp community. One thing was that I got bored of it and moved on and also the fact that you have to break your hand to win a single game. It's funny to see kids mald in chat over a boxing match loss
The fact that the minecraft 1.20+ Tier List Community is worse MUCH worse then this in all sorts of ways is crazy...
When he was in the couch talking about Texas I had to turn it off. Those weird noises he was making with his mouth were so bad.
outdated aaaah content , i feel like im listening to the old tenebrous who had almost no idea what he was talking abt, the last part where u complain abt butterfly clicling, hitselect etc also sounds like a massive skill issue ngl
I appreciate the false information on me spread by the cheating community.
want a tower like this? buy rise!
This video still only scratches the surface. Didn’t even go into hcf and roxbot.
Not to mention the extreme level of toxicity in modern Minecraft PVP not 1.8 for the extreme level of toxicity at the top level and the level of abuse that some players are willing to subject. Other to is crazy.
@@ZeinKaskaslegit aximity got exposed for being a horrible guy
If you got to know the phobos devs they're actually some stand-up fellas who are very well put together
just wait before you see the MMC FBF community, it got ruined by top players because of their extreme ego
i play fireball fight alot and I'm not toxic, but it's just sad to see that some people have super big egos. One time I beat this known player then he proceeded to be toxic in my dms for minutes straight, and they were also on 60 winstreak. I have lost winstreaks in the past due to something stupid, but at least I don't complain
@@NotCreeper137 how was he called?
@@SteveStiw it was ninjabuilder
@@NotCreeper137 don't know him tbh, and i was #10 on leaderboards before i got banned without a stat wipe
@@SteveStiw he's on NA
Stuff like butterfly clicking just goes to prove my point that, while not perfect, 1.9 was 100% needed. Post combat update combat is just so much more fun and interesting
Quality content bro keep it up 👍
did you just call hit selecting toxic
Great vid thanks for the self intervention, but I can say if you love the game don't quit and let the toxic win. Learn to fight back!!!
wait until he sees minemen club :'D
bro didnt see the hcf community.
Honestly this sounds like someone unwilling to come to terms with the fact that there are skilled players that are just that, skilled. "cringe" ways to play don't exist. You just can't play at their skill level, which is fine, but calling it toxicity is coping.
Wait till man finds out about the Minecraft factions community
Minecraft is like that bc it does not have even a little bit of client side anticheat, every bit of every packet needs to be analised by the server to decide if the player is cheating.
The online world has become a nightmare everywhere
Edit: I have always been scared of hackers. Now yes My name online is Glitch Master but I am only Called Glitch Master because I did Glitches in Jak and Daxter games back in the PS2 eras. But this hacking and doing stuff is at the next level. I'm not alarmed because the world is shifting but, holy shit this is scary as hell.
Hypixel is a shitshow no surprise it's home to so many miserable people like hackers, snipers, etc..
Nice video dude
7:36 "if you play with slight reach, hitboxes and cps mod (autoclicker?) you can potentially play infinitely."
Reach and hitboxes are blatant cheats, playing with autoclicker, esp, blockhit with the right settings never gets you banned
Reach 3.1 isnt detected on hypixel
Hitboxes on raven b4 is main safe (personally used it on an alt for a high ws)
@@WompClient yeah but if you don't want to ever get banned, it's just safe to just autoclick and use slight blockhit from my experience
how does my bro only have 1k subs this content is worthy of more
This is why I only played on smaller sky block servers or privately hosted smp’s
bros never played crystal pvp
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cpvp community is for newgens roflz
@@aeroslothy its been a think for like 4 years now so yeah
Calling Minecraft’s very essence (“the true minecraft”) that of toxicity is simply misguided. The community leaks their venom and toxicity into this simple block game.
you just earned sub :D
Any survival game with pvp is always the most toxic games 😭
good vid but what is that luck at 25:19 😭
25:49 As a minecraft player, that hurt .___.
So, what is it?
I: Ok I understand that you get extremely salty when someone uses a mechanic that you don't know how to use but other than CPS Minecraft 1.8/Minecraft Bedrock PvP mechanics are actually very cool. Minecraft has a very cohesive set of mechanics than can be used in conjunction with eachother. Basically when you play a pvp game there are ways to counter everything the other player does, whether it be jump reseting, hitsequencing (hitselecting), or for absolute chads; 45ing (Moving you camera 45 degrees and strafing gives more momentum as you know, this can be used to get closer to your oponent in a trade with preferrable kb, in conjunction with jump reseting works very well). I could make the entire PvP bible if I wanted to but the point is that Minecraft 1.8/Minecraft Bedrock PvP mechanics work pretty well.
II: Excluding cheating, the fact that Minecraft has more of the most toxic people is in hindsight not very surprising. If you include Chinese players and pirated players then there are about 200 million players who have touched the game enough to understand it. When you have such a massive player pool it statistically makes sense that more of the most decrepit people may end up in some community and cause a lot of upset.
III: Although I had some criticism for you claims about the PvP mechanics, I will say that you covered the topic of cheating very well, cheating in Minecraft is very easy due to the lack of ways to check for cheats through the server side and the modding capability of the game. Overall I enjoyed your coverage of those topics with the perspectives of the cheat devs and cheaters included.
nah bro deserve more subs
btw W outro
Minemen's agc used to be a great anti-cheat, but now it's terrible. I'd say even worse than Hypixel's watchdog at times. Nowadays it's trivially easy to bypass killaura, scaffold, etc. and movement bypasses aren't that hard to find either.
Hypixel does actually keep getting better, though very slowly. For example, reach is patched, and people are forced to use more modern cheats such as Backtrack, which effectively replace reach, but are less OP.
Danrey is actually cookin with this Minecraft toxicity
Bro hasn't seen Minecraft parkour community
Bro didn't even get into the modern pvp community
wait till he finds out about factions or the tierlist community
lowkey fire vid
This video feels like a Minecraft hate! Tbh I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hacker on Hypixel (or at least don’t remember) but even if most people do encounter hackers a lot it’s all about the server, not the game! You can still play normal Minecraft and don’t worry about any of these stuff or just go to a less popular Server!
I don't agree with some of the gameplay part. Just like a lot of games, if you intend to play PVP in Minecraft, you have to know how to play first. A lot of mechanics are annoying and toxic to an extent, but they're just ways to play the game to maybe have an advantage if you learn. It's like playing Fortnite and not knowing how to build and saying it's "toxic" and "cringe". Although that's a valid thing to sa-
Bro has NOT heard of the blocksmc cheating community
cod players watching this with thinking you dont know what real toxicity is
"Are you Minecraft because you are the king of toxicity, or are you the king of toxicity because you are Minecraft?"
Just wait until you see the ranked nodebuff community or the 1.9 cpvp tier list community